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		<title>By: David Deal</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, everyone, for weighing in.  I’ve also been thinking more about my Black Friday experience in light of the tragedy that occurred at a New York Wal-Mart when surging crowds trampled a worker to death in their rush to enter the store for Black Friday sales.  What happened at Wal-Mart certainly makes for some pithy, high-minded editorializing about American consumerism running amok.  In fact, instances of crowds turning an outwardly positive or neutral event into a tragedy are not unique to Black Friday, as we’ve seen with religious and sports celebrations inside and outside the United States.  These tragedies are usually the result of poor crowd control.  Bruce Both, President of United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 1500, had this to say about the Wal-Mart debacle: “Where were the safety barriers? Where was security? How did store management not see dangerous numbers of customers barreling down on the store in such an unsafe manner?&quot;

Those are good questions.  Addressing them is a start to reforming the aspects of Black Friday that make me uncomfortable, as well, such as the way retailers treat consumers like cattle.  I’m not going to judge consumers for finding pleasure in the purchase of a DVD player or joy in a shared ritual that has its roots in commercial enterprise, whether we’re buying goods at Target or shelling out money to attend a rock concert together.  (It would be hypocritical of me to do -- plunking down only $12.99 for Season 1 of “Mad Men” at Circuit City certainly put a smile on my face on Black Friday 2008.)  What I do know is that with consumer spending accounting for two thirds of U.S. economic growth, Black Friday isn’t going to go away. So how can the experience be improved?  

Improved crowd control is certainly essential.  What happened at the New York Wal-Mart should definitely cause any major American retailer to assess its own procedures for safeguarding the welfare of employees and shoppers on Black Friday or any other event where larger-than-normal crowds gather.  

My blog post yesterday, of course, is based on my own fairly tame personal experiences with Black Friday for two years running, including interviews I’ve conducted and eyewitness accounts of how retailers and consumers approach the day in one American city where I happened to live.  As you can see, I’ve challenged retailers to put more focus on the consumer, not just the transaction.  I specifically cited how retailers could tap into our intrinsic need to socialize and belong.  But there are many more noble things retailers could do than the ideas I posted yesterday -- like allowing charities to create in-store experiences at Black Friday or by providing Black Friday Bucks for consumers who donate to a cause benefitting their local community.  So what would you do to reform Black Friday?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, everyone, for weighing in.  I’ve also been thinking more about my Black Friday experience in light of the tragedy that occurred at a New York Wal-Mart when surging crowds trampled a worker to death in their rush to enter the store for Black Friday sales.  What happened at Wal-Mart certainly makes for some pithy, high-minded editorializing about American consumerism running amok.  In fact, instances of crowds turning an outwardly positive or neutral event into a tragedy are not unique to Black Friday, as we’ve seen with religious and sports celebrations inside and outside the United States.  These tragedies are usually the result of poor crowd control.  Bruce Both, President of United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 1500, had this to say about the Wal-Mart debacle: “Where were the safety barriers? Where was security? How did store management not see dangerous numbers of customers barreling down on the store in such an unsafe manner?&#8221;</p>
<p>Those are good questions.  Addressing them is a start to reforming the aspects of Black Friday that make me uncomfortable, as well, such as the way retailers treat consumers like cattle.  I’m not going to judge consumers for finding pleasure in the purchase of a DVD player or joy in a shared ritual that has its roots in commercial enterprise, whether we’re buying goods at Target or shelling out money to attend a rock concert together.  (It would be hypocritical of me to do &#8212; plunking down only $12.99 for Season 1 of “Mad Men” at Circuit City certainly put a smile on my face on Black Friday 2008.)  What I do know is that with consumer spending accounting for two thirds of U.S. economic growth, Black Friday isn’t going to go away. So how can the experience be improved?  </p>
<p>Improved crowd control is certainly essential.  What happened at the New York Wal-Mart should definitely cause any major American retailer to assess its own procedures for safeguarding the welfare of employees and shoppers on Black Friday or any other event where larger-than-normal crowds gather.  </p>
<p>My blog post yesterday, of course, is based on my own fairly tame personal experiences with Black Friday for two years running, including interviews I’ve conducted and eyewitness accounts of how retailers and consumers approach the day in one American city where I happened to live.  As you can see, I’ve challenged retailers to put more focus on the consumer, not just the transaction.  I specifically cited how retailers could tap into our intrinsic need to socialize and belong.  But there are many more noble things retailers could do than the ideas I posted yesterday &#8212; like allowing charities to create in-store experiences at Black Friday or by providing Black Friday Bucks for consumers who donate to a cause benefitting their local community.  So what would you do to reform Black Friday?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I share Ana&#039;s unease with the Black Friday ritual. This is tricky because I don&#039;t think it&#039;s my place to judge how other people spend their  time. Still, something seems off with this picture. The death at Walmart over a discount flat screen is an absurd reminder of how much mass consumerism has completely overwhelmed our culture. The idea that people find community through retail is depressing. What&#039;s more, the many challenges we face can be traced back to one thing: our addiction to debt-fueled consumerism. Check out Stephen Roach&#039;s article on this: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/28/opinion/28roach.html He sums it up nicely: &quot;Americans need to save. They don’t need another flat-screen TV made in China.&quot; This is no small problem. Many of the people you were cheek to jowl with yesterday don&#039;t need more stuff, but instead need to live within their means. I keep asking agencies and advertisers I interview about what the role of advertising is in a world where we need to consume less. What happens when companies choose to meet needs rather than create them, as Ana suggests? I&#039;ve yet to get a coherent answer. Maybe we can spend our way out of our current problems like we&#039;ve always done -- with a few tramplings along the way as the price to pay. I have my doubts. The crowds Obama attracted are an indication people want to turn these same impulses that cause them to go to the mall in the middle of the night into something more substantial than a shot at $128 Blu-ray disc players. It would be nice to see mass action to solve some of the myriad problems we face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share Ana&#8217;s unease with the Black Friday ritual. This is tricky because I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s my place to judge how other people spend their  time. Still, something seems off with this picture. The death at Walmart over a discount flat screen is an absurd reminder of how much mass consumerism has completely overwhelmed our culture. The idea that people find community through retail is depressing. What&#8217;s more, the many challenges we face can be traced back to one thing: our addiction to debt-fueled consumerism. Check out Stephen Roach&#8217;s article on this: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/28/opinion/28roach.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/28/opinion/28roach.html</a> He sums it up nicely: &#8220;Americans need to save. They don’t need another flat-screen TV made in China.&#8221; This is no small problem. Many of the people you were cheek to jowl with yesterday don&#8217;t need more stuff, but instead need to live within their means. I keep asking agencies and advertisers I interview about what the role of advertising is in a world where we need to consume less. What happens when companies choose to meet needs rather than create them, as Ana suggests? I&#8217;ve yet to get a coherent answer. Maybe we can spend our way out of our current problems like we&#8217;ve always done &#8212; with a few tramplings along the way as the price to pay. I have my doubts. The crowds Obama attracted are an indication people want to turn these same impulses that cause them to go to the mall in the middle of the night into something more substantial than a shot at $128 Blu-ray disc players. It would be nice to see mass action to solve some of the myriad problems we face.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David! 

Very interesting. As one of your German colleagues I am always curious about other country&#039;s traditions. In fact, we don&#039;t have this kind of official starting point for holiday season. But we have &#039;christmas markets&#039; (which is a German tradition). And in fact, they are packed and social (as we drink a special, heated wine) as usual. All the best for a happy holiday season.

Gerald</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David! </p>
<p>Very interesting. As one of your German colleagues I am always curious about other country&#8217;s traditions. In fact, we don&#8217;t have this kind of official starting point for holiday season. But we have &#8216;christmas markets&#8217; (which is a German tradition). And in fact, they are packed and social (as we drink a special, heated wine) as usual. All the best for a happy holiday season.</p>
<p>Gerald</p>
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		<title>By: Money, Stock and Finance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Superhype » Blog Archive » Black Friday Means Social Shopping</title>
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		<dc:creator>Money, Stock and Finance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Superhype » Blog Archive » Black Friday Means Social Shopping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Will they turn out in droves in the wee hours on Black Friday and spend lavishly, or will they cave into recessionary fears and pinch their pennies? What are retailers doing to woo this exotic species of American shopper during a &#8230;[Continue Reading] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tom cathey</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom cathey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome article David. Some great suggestions for social promotions. I think that&#039;s the kind of &quot;Out of the box&quot; thinking that some of the &quot;Big Box&quot; retailers are going to need to survive in the future. Very few are forward thinking when it comes to attracting/retaining customers. What do I know... I did my black Friday shopping online last night snagging a couple of Garmin 260 GPS units for a great price of $149 from Circuit City. Their web site is easy to use combined with the 24 minute in-store pick-up. As I said what do I know...they&#039;re chapter 11!! Merry Christmas!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome article David. Some great suggestions for social promotions. I think that&#8217;s the kind of &#8220;Out of the box&#8221; thinking that some of the &#8220;Big Box&#8221; retailers are going to need to survive in the future. Very few are forward thinking when it comes to attracting/retaining customers. What do I know&#8230; I did my black Friday shopping online last night snagging a couple of Garmin 260 GPS units for a great price of $149 from Circuit City. Their web site is easy to use combined with the 24 minute in-store pick-up. As I said what do I know&#8230;they&#8217;re chapter 11!! Merry Christmas!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Furman</title>
		<link>http://www.superhypeblog.com/2008/11/28/black-friday-means-social-shopping/comment-page-1/#comment-6933</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Furman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, Admire your courage and pioneering spirit. I slept till 10:00 am today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, Admire your courage and pioneering spirit. I slept till 10:00 am today.</p>
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		<title>By: Ana Andjelic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ana Andjelic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello David,

Happy holidays. 

Funny enough, I have written a post yesterday in celebration of the International Buy Nothing day (Sat. Nov 29 and Friday Nov. 28 in the US). It is about the exactly same thing that you are writing about here, but from a diametrically opposite perspective. 

I found the black friday ritual profoundly disturbing. 1) what you are writing about is consumerism with a social face, and 2) it is a matter of social habit formed by economic entities (companies).

I claim in my post, http://tinyurl.com/5jwppt, that (people&#039;s) needs often get confused with their habits of products consumption/use. Social needs that you describe in your post included. The same social rewards/benefits that you describe (ritual, pride in being first, etc) can be achieved from doing something other than habitual consumption. Some more sustainable goals come to mind, like helping others, reducing poverty, or protecting the environment. 

I am strongly against celebrating consumerism and the social habits formed around it.  

Regards,

Ana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello David,</p>
<p>Happy holidays. </p>
<p>Funny enough, I have written a post yesterday in celebration of the International Buy Nothing day (Sat. Nov 29 and Friday Nov. 28 in the US). It is about the exactly same thing that you are writing about here, but from a diametrically opposite perspective. </p>
<p>I found the black friday ritual profoundly disturbing. 1) what you are writing about is consumerism with a social face, and 2) it is a matter of social habit formed by economic entities (companies).</p>
<p>I claim in my post, <a target="_blank" href="http://tinyurl.com/5jwppt" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5jwppt</a>, that (people&#8217;s) needs often get confused with their habits of products consumption/use. Social needs that you describe in your post included. The same social rewards/benefits that you describe (ritual, pride in being first, etc) can be achieved from doing something other than habitual consumption. Some more sustainable goals come to mind, like helping others, reducing poverty, or protecting the environment. </p>
<p>I am strongly against celebrating consumerism and the social habits formed around it.  </p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Ana</p>
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